There ’s a new chapter being written at DC / Vertigo , and the comic book impression is hoping that the launch ofHigh Levelwill help to plant a new flag in the genre of hard , cyberpunk , skill fabrication epic . And at the same time , forever change what readers define as a " post - revelatory " adventure .

The premise alone is enough to hook motion picture and video game fans old-hat of the same red - brown , arenaceous , cannibal - filled canyons and deserts that make up most " ending of the human race " stories . The world ofHigh Levelmay have suffered through that very degree when its version of humanity flow , but readers wo n’t see it . Instead , the taradiddle dreamed up by writer Rob Sheridan begins centuries later , when those who survived build their own communities , factions , and conflicts .

WithHigh Level#1 launching today , Screen Rant draw the chance to ask Sheridan about his unusual new existence , the colourful characters inhabiting it , and how those who dwell in the dust differ from the favorable few who met the remnant of the world with enough left over to ramp up High Level , a miracle metropolis at the top of the creation . study our consultation below , and see if you are as excited forHigh Level ’s cyberpunk news report as we are .

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Well , I sure hope you ’re not tired of blab out about High Level yet .

I ’m not tired of talking about the book , I really am not used to have to talk about myself , and do self - promotion so much . It ’s kind of a novel affair for me . So I hate all the ego - promotion aspect of this , it feels tucker to keep being like , ' Buy my book , buy my book , buy my Quran ! ' But I ’ve been living the world of High Level for a year now , so I ’m decidedly into talking about it .

I have to conceive of even for any form of property that is refreshed , or a new idea , it has to be even more of an cause on your part to taste to keep it wise after weeks and calendar month of talking about it .

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Yeah . And also , my fans , my audience are n’t inevitably comics citizenry . I ’m young to this cosmos . So trying to recount them , ' Please go out to a comic store and corrupt this thing , ' you bonk ? It starts to feel dirty after a short while . Artists have managers and Puerto Rico people for a reason , it ’s not in our nature to want to announce ourselves all the clip . We just want to make thing and put them out in the populace and desire masses manage … quietly .

Well , High Level is soon to arrive from DC / Vertigo and your creative person Barnaby Bagenda and Romulo Fajardo , Jr .. I have to say , the most interesting part of this pitch is the story that you ’re NOT telling . I know you know what I mean , but for reader , High Level is n’t a story about the fall of society , or the post - Revelation .

Yeah , we ’re calling it a post - post - apocalyptic account . The tagline that my editor in chief Andy [ Khouri ] came up with was ' This is n’t the news report of what chance , it ’s the story of what happens next . ' We think it would be interesting to move – I’ve always been entrance by the melodic theme that beyond a monumental variety to smart set , an apocalyptic change , what happens if most of history is erased along the elbow room ? And it ’s kind of easy to suppose decent now when , as we move forwards year by class , so much of our history , our media , our communications are all being placed in computers , and servers , and the cloud . And if all that infrastructure gets wipe out by dramatic climate change , by aggregated migrations , by war , whatever it might be , and then you take several generations of people just feed on pure survival , you lose a lot of history in that operation . And it becomes an oral history . So I ’ve always been kind of spell-bound by the idea of what would bump when the dust settles a piddling mo , and people started to produce new civilizations . But they did n’t have any of the historical context that we have .

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Or the luggage .

Or the baggage , on the button , it cultivate in both way . A large theme about the story of High Level is what luggage persist ? Who are the people who are keep that luggage entire ? That has a lot to do with how differently the 1 % is going to make it the apocalypse than the 99 % .

Yeah , the manner people talk about the time to come lately , ' if we ’re even around then , ' or more and more often talk about the impendent last of civilization as we jazz it … That almost seems like we ’re giving ourselves a passport to say , ' Oh , we ’ll die out and not even see it . '

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[ Laughs ] Yeah . Yeah .

So when you take the mental commitment to sit down and really put to paper what take place to those who do n’t get off so easy … Is that a hearty genial drill for someone future - appear like yourself , or did that sprain out to be a different creative   experience than you thought ?

I believe the melodic theme of advertise it quite a few hundred long time in the future , past the difficult parts , made it interesting to think about … I wish I could recall where I heard this , it was on like a Star Trek commentary runway . Some futurist was babble out about how we always have this musical theme that when gild reconstruct itself after traumatic upshot , like really traumatic events , that it would take care more or less the same . And the realness , he was saying , is that it really would n’t look anything like what we have now . Because when you remove all those institutions , and preconceived notions , and barriers , and rules , bon ton will rebuild itself based on its needs and based on its instincts , rather than all the things that you realize .

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There ’s so many invisible strings that are guiding us to behave in certain fashion , to live our lives in certain way of life . Part of the story of High Level was inspired by me and my now - married woman going off grid for a while and just living in an recreational vehicle and rediscovering ourselves . But you quickly realise that you ’re wholly trapped by a arrangement of finance , and credit scads , and identity , and government documents . And you ca n’t just do your own matter , really . And if you need to seek to do that you ’ll get punish by the system in many different ways . And it ’s really hard to dig yourself out of that , as I see . So there ’s a lot of thing that are holding us in sealed patterns that we do n’t even realize . A lot of invisible hands that are making it so we do things the manner that we do them . And if you remove all those , and give humanity a opportunity to rebuild itself purely found on its needs and its instincts , it might look whole different than what animation looks like now . That ’s kind of the inhalation for where the account begins in High Level .

From the speech sound of it High Level is blend to be wearing its political science , or perchance it would be right to say its ideologies and opinions on its arm , like you say , almost by what is no longer there . I know it ’s not the case so much any longer , but I always thought scientific discipline fiction started as a billet where you could mouth about things you could n’t babble about anywhere else . How much of that is in the DNA of High Level ?

I mean everything of that is in the deoxyribonucleic acid of High Level . One of my favorite things of all time is The Twilight Zone , and there is no better example of skill fiction speak about thing that it was n’t allowed to . I mean you look out that now and it ’s mind fellate that it was allowed to air out on web telecasting at the clip that it air , you know ? And they did that by definitely tricking the censors by telling phantasy stories that were really telling stories about flop now . I intend that ’s the upright that sci - fi does , and that ’s what we hope to do with High Level .

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But I also think that it puzzle out really well – much like the Twilight Zone did – and even thing as mere as Star Wars , you fuck . Star Wars was , despite what many fans might now think about it , was actually a narrative about fascism , you know ? It was drop a line by a guy who make out up in World War II , and it ’s a story about good an iniquity . But it did n’t have to be take in that specific way of life , it just get under your peel because you ’re enjoying that fantasy . So one matter that was significant about congeal High Level in a fantastic vision of the future was that we were n’t beating you over the head with politics . you could scan this as a playfulness , sci - fi adventure if you want . But there ’s political orientation behind it , that hopefully will creep in and effectuate you and make you imagine about matter .

Well , if you unfold a amusing book with a blue - haired woman in a gun masquerade party emptying a septic tank , I ’m obviously aquiline .

[ Laughs ] Tell me more about your specific interest .

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So , Thirteen when we meet her . There ’s a plenty – beyond just the politics and ideology of what led me to make this – there ’s also a pot of personal stuff in it . Thirteen is kind of me : who I was as a cocky , snarky twenty - something hipster kid who imagine I had everything figured out and thought nothing else mattered . So she ’s meant to be a little bit annoying , a piddling act selfish , a fiddling bit brash at the beginning . She ’s cocky , she ’s got her own thing figured out , she ’s got everything just the way she likes it , she does n’t want anything to fuck with her world . The last thing she retrieve about is the bigger image of everything that ’s happening outside of her comfortable little world that she ’s fix up for herself .

We had to strike a symmetricalness patently , where we did n’t need her to be like … so annoying that you do n’t want to follow her journey , but she ’s entail to be a little bit abrasive in the beginning . Because she ’s got to have room to grow , and she ’s work to discover that it ’s important to deal about the worldly concern outside yourself . And there ’s a message in that about how our only way of life forward is realizing that we ’re all in this together . And trying to realize that all these thing that split up us Clarence Day in and daylight out we ’re actually face much fully grown things that we ’re all in , on the same path .

The archetype of the setting would be a journeying or missionary station the size of it of a Mad Max , or Big Trouble in Little China . But I empathise that Thirteen ’s story is going to be a bunch grander , or more unexpected than from the first result ?

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Yeah , the obvious – from people who have read the first take – the obvious compare come in of Mad Max , of Borderlands , which are very exact , I have sex those thing . But it ’s unearthly because you ’re kind of free the first fifteen minutes of the movie a little bit , you cognize ? The comparison I always draw is like , imagine if you put out just the first fifteen mo of Star Wars and it ’s just this whiny small fry in the desert [ express mirth ] . And then they ’re like , ' No but really it gets disturbed , it rifle all kinds of place ! Just come back in a month and we ’ll show you the next fifteen minutes . '

So I kind of grin at those comparison because where it ’s snuff it is in a much , much harder sci - fi territory . And the storey was conceive structurally of very much a classic adventure tale . I was an only nestling , I was a lone hand , and I always identified with report like Star Wars , Lord of the Rings , Harry Potter , things that start out with – Zelda is a neat deterrent example , I know them when I was a kid – thing that begin out with this mortal who is a nobody , isolated path far away from the big conflict of the world . And they get through fate , or chance , or whatever , roped into going on this journey towards … they get closer and closer to larger conflicts and it opens up the world through their middle . And that ’s the first arc of High Level . Beyond that it catch really weird [ Laughs ] .

Well , yeah , I think people these days are kind of used to see a post - apocalyptic wasteland and intellection , ' Yeah yeah cannibal , spikes on their shoulders , okay , next . '

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Yeah .

I ’m curious to know how you navigate that in creating your own vision . Because I have to imagine it can be as challenging avoid the thing you really like as much as the one you desire to avoid .

Yeah . I do n’t have any trouble wearing my influence on my sleeve a small bit . They fall in me a chance to save my own comic book , I ' go to make it all the things that I love , fuck it , you cognise ? They might never let me do this again [ laugh ] . So it ’s very much inspired by everything I bonk from ' LXXX and ' 90s scientific discipline fiction . And part of the reasonableness behind this sight of the future where technology has been mostly wiped out and then rebuilt from scraps of the old cosmos was to create a tactile ' eighty retro - futuristic futurity where everything is disc , and wires , and button , and previous monitors , and I just love that artistic very much . I need to produce an aesthetic where that seemed possible in our future . But it ’s going to move away from that you acknowledge .

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It stays in Mad Max territory for about two and a half issues and then it starts to .. the playfulness thing about the journey aspect , and peculiarly the journeying towards where the centre of mogul and wealth is in this world , is that we get to move through a pile of dissimilar landscapes and meet a lot of different fictitious character . And there ’s a statement about how dissimilar the masses of Onida are endure and the people of High Level are living . So you ’ll be out of Mad Max soil somewhat soon , and it ’ll be all kinds of different diddlysquat .

So that ’s the 99 % idea of the tarradiddle ?

Yeah sort of , because there ’s the other 99 % which are masses who are dire and kick the bucket , and we ’ll see those later . Thirteen ’s community is a community of people who are living with what they have . They ’re traders , and they partake in everything , and their saving is mostly ground on thing that they ’ve regain from the old world , they ’ve scavenged out of old storage pods . There ’s a deviation that we ’ll show in like , the musical theme of people living in a way that ’s content and working for them that are n’t caught up in some kind of larger dodging that ’s state them that they always ask to be move to a higher level . They always need to be wanting more , and more , and more , and … you’re able to draw the obvious comparisons there to former level capitalist economy [ laughs ] .

I can also imagine a writer set about that kind of next universe . But for someone with such an artistic background in different medium , what was it like sour with Barnaby and Rom ? Did they exist up to the reputation of laughable artist being almost alien first-rate - geniuses ?

[ Laughs ] They did ! And way beyond my hope , actually . I was skittish about that because I ’ve always think about making a comic rule book since I was a little minor … and sketched around in my free time or whatever . But I always forecast I ’d never have the prison term to do it because as an artist in that reality , I ’m very deadening . They would have to give me a year to do one issue . I wish to do illustrations , but you may be a good illustrator , but that does n’t make you a good comic book creative person . It ’s a very specific acquirement , it ’s really , really special what they know how to do in terms of anatomy and facial reflexion . And speed ! I mean the speeding that they work at is unbelievable . So when Vertigo come up to me and ask if I wanted to pitch an theme , they did n’t even consider that I would be the creative person . They had see my work with Nine Inch Nails as a teller and just want to see if I had ideas to be a author …

Is that a compliment ?

Yeah ! It is really . Because that ’s where I want to move in my career after doing the Year Zero affair with Nine Inch Nails I realized I ’d spend too much clip away from storytelling and that was something I wanted to get into . I was in reality indite a book at the time . Then they suddenly came to me with this estimation to tilt something , and it turn out I had an estimate sitting on my articulatio humeri . So it was kind of palliate . It was like , ' We ’ll discover artists who can bring this vision to life . ' And when we start talking about artists , my main affair was I wanted to make this future vision of America , but I wanted it to feel almost alien and I wanted to draw from European sci - fi illusion like former Heavy Metal , Moebius was a big influence , and give it a totally different tactile property than a straightforward gritty , dystopian thing that we ’ve ascertain a million clip . And make it almost feel like an alien major planet even though it ’s our planet and our country .

So when they presented me with some ideas for artist , I was really drawn to the unequaled style of Barnaby and Rom . Barnaby has just been awe-inspiring in get hold of verbal description of things and bringing them to living perfectly , and making them comfortably , even . So it ’s been an astonishingly placid process where I ’m not like , ' Oh god this is not how it ’s supposed to calculate ! ' You know ? It ’s actually been so amazing , it ’s the best job . Waking up every sunup to email with young artistic production that take everything to lifetime exactly how I ’d hop , and in many case even better . The unique way that those two piece of work together gives it a painterly , different kind of look dissimilar from a batch of comic .

Has the procedure changed since then ? I could see the descriptions get shorter and shorter as it becomes light that you ’re on the same page .

Yeah , I think so . It ’s so hard for me because I have an art direction background where my scripts are very long , probably annoyingly so for Barnaby . They ’re very , very descriptive of everything . I think I ’ve acquire quicker at indite them now because he is so good at understanding what I ’m talking about and adapting it . Definitely the first handwriting is always the heavy , but it was quite a journey on this one . We went back and off on a lot of things many times . Now we ’re in a really great rhythm where I do n’t demand to nitpick things as much , and I can take off my art director chapeau a little bit and just pore on the narration . Because Barnaby and Rom have got this .

DC / Vertigo put together a trailer for High Level , which they do n’t do for every book ( listen to it with the music on ) . It includes some serious praise from some experient Vertigo and DC writer already . Since you define yourself as an creative person in the main for the last fifteen years ,   so how much of that feedback is validation , and how much is it adding pressure to the narration you ’re telling ?

One thing that is cool for me is that we ’ve had a really long growing time on this . It was greenlit a year ago this month and already had a solid pitch that had been develop up to that point . And just because of the way that DC / Vertigo scheduled their releases , ours was one of the ulterior ones . So we ’ve had a ton of time to be sitting on this [ Laughs ] . And in some ways that ’s frustrating because I palpate like I ca n’t conceive this thing is n’t in peoples ' paw yet . But on the other hand , it made it so that I could work out a full story arc where we recognise where everything is headed . We cognize the end , we bonk all the mysteries that we ’re teasing , we know the big questions are answer , and that makes it a portion more fun . We ’re not making it up as we go along . Everything that we can tease along the way is serve .

So on that tier , I feel very surefooted in the story . I feel like when this whole thing is said and done , I ’m really , really stoke about how it all play out and I ’m proud of it . So I ’m not worried or aflutter on that end , but it ’s a new comic and you have to get hold readership for a newfangled comedian , you have to find an interview . I ’m new to comics , so when peer in the funnies manufacture say good matter about it , it ’s really exciting . It ’s awful [ gag ] . I ’m kind of the raw kid in Ithiel Town coming from a different industry , so the fact that they ’ve repsonded so well to it is really validate , utterly .

But if you ’ve get the total tarradiddle for the series plan out , the stuff that they ’re heap congratulations on has to be almost ' Yeah yeah yeah , but you do n’t even recognize " …

Well they do n’t know . I have n’t told anybody . The only people that know are my editors … But no those the great unwashed are just respond to the first event , and the review that have come out are responding to the first outlet . And that ’s a immense succour , that some hoi polloi are come out to pick up the idea that this has a raft of big estimate behind it . Because it ’s really hard to , as I said , liberate the first fifteen minutes of the movie and trust people get it . So none of those citizenry know what ’s going to happen ultimately . So that ’s very supporting that people are starting to foot up on the heavy themes . And hopefully that keeps people along for the ride .

Has that helped the comic Word of God medium sink its hooks into you yet ? I suppose that happens jolly warm once you get into the rhythm with artists that you ’re spill about . It wo n’t be publishing the final issuing and then saying au revoir to the medium .

Oh , definitely not . It ’s a tough manufacture , you lie with , the economics of comics are tough right now . And a lot of it is hoping that it will take off , or you ’ll get royalties , or perchance it ’ll get optioned for something in the future . Talks of motion picture , and TV and everything like that . But the real medium , when you get down to the originative process of it , is so square . I mean it ’s like you could conduct a movie but there ’s no budget [ laugh ] . you’re able to dream up any world that you want and then we can create it and put it on the page . I ’m working on Issue 4 right now , and it ’s a neon city of sex that ’s in the swamp , and it ’s like … I can just come up with the uncanny dump and it actually just comes to biography on the page . We do n’t want a special effects budget or anything .

Is that the part of the chronicle where the ' cybernetic mafia ' comes in ?

Yeah . Cybernetic mutant mafia , although do n’t call them sport . They ’re called The Changed . They were kind of born from old world experimentation with genetic design that went wrong . And now they ’re like a race of severely mutate people who are highly sound . So it gets into all kinds of poppycock like that . And it ’s fun ! It ’s like we can create this mutant mafia boss with cybernetic fond regard and he comes to life . We do n’t have to concern about the practicality of how that ’s go to come about , like in a movie . I approximate what I ’m articulate is ' comic are awful . ' And I extremely advance everyone to get involved in making them , because they ’re really fun .

To start wrapping up , the first issue is obviously what people are utter about and having strong responses to . So if you could seem in front of a proofreader who just finished this first issue , how would you identify to them what is coming ? What is the impression that they should dead snaffle onto as what you intend for this level to activate ?

Wow , that ’s a dodgy interrogative sentence . First of all , I go for that they do away from it with a lot of questions , and a lot of wonderment . Because part of what we try out to do in Issue 1 is set up bad closed book that are pass to be – even this arc that variety of seems like the story is about this journeying that she ’s expire to go on , it actually lead into a much bad journeying . I hope we ’ve put out the correct seed , and I ’d want to ask them if they ’re intrigued . Because we have so much more of a story to secern and this was very much about planting seeds in this first issue . I would want them to begin thinking about what it has to say about where we are right now . Because there ’s going to be some liberal theme about that running through the whole comic .

last Question : what medicine should people put on in the background when sitting down to study High Level ?

I do n’t need to promise this , but my friend Steven Alexander Ryan , who did the medicine for the prevue that you take care , he ’s working on the melodic theme of create an original score for each upshot . I get ta check in where he ’s at on Issue 1 , but we ’re hoping to free that when the first issue issue forth out . So there will actually be a kind of ambient , electric soundtrack to listen to while you ’re reading it .

You could n’t resist . There was absolutely go to be a cross - acting of mass medium with any comic book you created .

Oh , I bid we could do a circumstances more . peradventure when it encircle back around to a trade paperback or something we will do more grouchy - media poppycock , I bonk that . Right now we ’re just focusing on telling the news report , but thankfully I live some mass who make some really cool music . Steve ’s develop really into it , and he ’s been work on the soundtrack , so I hope that works out and we might end up release a soundtrack for the whole history .

High storey # 1will be uncommitted February 20th , 2019 in your local mirthful workshop , and digitally fromDC / Vertigo .

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